Wait and See, What's in Store - Part 2


Barack Obama is warned to beware of a 'huge threat' from al-Qaeda

Security officials fear a 'spectacular' during the transition period

The Times, November 15, 2008

Barack Obama is being given ominous advice from leaders on both sides of the Atlantic to brace himself for an early assault from terrorists.

General Michael Hayden, director of the CIA, this week acknowledged that there were dangers during a presidential transition when new officials were coming in and getting accustomed to the challenges. But he added that no "real or artificial spike" in intercepted transmissions from terror suspects had been detected.

President Bush has repeatedly described the acute vulnerability of the US during a transition. The Bush Administration has been defined largely by the 9/11 attacks, which came within a year of his taking office.

His aides have pointed to al-Qaeda's first assault on the World Trade Centre, which occurred little more than a month after Bill Clinton became President in 1993. There was an alleged attempt to bomb Glasgow airport in Gordon Brown's first days in Downing Street and a London nightclub attack was narrowly thwarted.

Lord West of Spithead, the Home Office Security Minister, spoke recently of a "huge threat", saying: "There is another great plot building up again and we are monitoring this."

Intelligence chiefs on both sides of the Atlantic have indicated that such warnings refer more to a general sense of foreboding than fear of an imminent or specific plan.

Referring to the attacks in 1993 and 2001, General Hayden told a Washington think-tank on Thursday night: "For some people two data points create a trend line. For others, there may be more hesitation to call it that." He said that the chief danger comes from remote areas in Pakistan that border Afghanistan.

"Today virtually every major terrorist threat that my agency is aware of has threads back to the tribal areas. Whether it's command and control, training, direction, money, capabilities, there is a connection to the Fata [Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas]."

General Hayden said that al-Qaeda remained a "determined, adaptive enemy" operating "from its safe haven in Pakistan". He added: "If there is a major attack on this country it will bear the fingerprints of al-Qaeda."

He said that the border region remained the base of al-Qaeda's leadership, which had developed a more durable structure and a deep reserve of skilled operatives. "AlQaeda, operating from its safe haven in Pakistan's tribal areas, remains the most clear and present danger to the safety of the United States," General Hayden said.

The hunt for al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden
"is very much at the top of CIA's priority list," he added. "Because of his iconic stature, his death or capture clearly would have a significant impact on the confidence of his followers."

The CIA chief also suggested that the terror group was seeking to recruit Western-looking operatives who would not cause attention if they were standing in airport screening queues.

Hours after he spoke, a suspected US missile attack killed 12 people in Pakistan, including five foreigners. Such strikes are hugely controversial, with Islamabad claiming that they fuel anti-American extremist groups. But Mr Obama has been clear that he wants to pursue al-Qaeda aggressively across the Afghan border.

In Britain, security officials say that there is genuine concern that alQaeda will attempt a "spectacular" in the transition period, but suggest that it may be aimed more at Mr Bush than Mr Obama.

"As far as we know there is nothing from the intelligence world to indicate that anything has changed dramatically in recent months to put us on alert for an attack at the moment," a source said. The present threat level is "severe", which is the second-highest alert status. But a senior counterterrorism official suggested last month that this should be regarded as "the severe end of severe". This would point to Britain facing a terrorist threat nearly as high as the period in the summer of 2005 when terrorists killed 52 people on London's transport network on July 7 and attempted a similar attack on July 21.

Britain and the US are sharing all intelligence on suspected terrorist activity because of the high risk of a plot involving transatlantic flights. Al-Qaeda is understood still to be obsessed with mounting an attack using passenger airliners. There have also been warnings of al-Qaeda interest in developing a chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear (CBRN) device. The US has anti-CBRN units on constant patrol in main cities.

Al-Qaeda is known to be experimenting with biological agents, particularly anthrax, which they acquire from dead animals and then create cultures. The key man involved in these experiments is Abou Kabbah al-Masri, who was engaged in the biological trials including tests on rabbits that were uncovered in Afghanistan when the Taleban were overrun after the US invasion in 2001.

James Lewis, a security expert with the Centre of Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said that al-Qaeda may wish to provoke a reaction from the next US Administration designed to show the rest of the world that "America is still the evil crusader".

Last month Joe Biden, the Vice-President-elect, told campaign donors: "Watch, we're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle [of Mr Obama]."

Mr Lewis said that many Muslims were intrigued by Mr Obama's arrival in the White House and "there may be political downsides" in attacking America too early. "It is hard to fathom the level of sophistication of their operatives and whether the chatter we intercept is dissent or intent. If they are gong to do something, they may wait until after the inauguration.

"At present there are policemen standing on policemen at possible targets. That won't be the case three months into the new administration."

The arms race

1945 US drops atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki

1953 Russia tests its first atomic bomb

1962 US discovers Soviet Union building a nuclear missile base in Cuba. After seven days of intense talks a naval quarantine is placed around Cuba and is only removed once President Khrushchev agrees to dismantle the base

1983 President Reagan launches the Strategic Defensive Initiative – Star Wars. This would allow the US to detect a nuclear weapon being launched and, by using laser technology, give it time to launch its own weapon to destroy the enemy missile

1986 President Gorbachev proposes a 50 per cent reduction in the nuclear arsenals of both sides. The discussions finally dissolve with no agreement reached

2008 US strikes deal with Poland and Czech Republic on Missile Defence Shield. Russia retaliates on day that Barack Obama is elected US President by threatening to station missiles in Kaliningrad, near its border with Poland

Source: Times archive

Wait & See, What's in Store

Comments on This Article

I see some liberals championing to fight diseases by ignoring the very real risks of letting a terrorist epidemic spread. This is an intelligent way (not) of fomenting trust instead of terror. I feel so secure with liberals' promises (not). Their Santa Obama will help (not).

Mick, Chicago,

It's interesting. Look at this comment section. Two flawed myth/value systems vying for legitimacy with each other. I'm forced to bet on the righties.

Urthona, NY, USA

what a lot of ridiculous comments from mainly US citizens who have bought the outgoing administrations fearmongering hook, line & sinker. Of course there is a threat that needs to be managed but to get to the root of the issue policy to the middle east must change and BO's admin is addressing that.

james, london, uk

the UK dealt with its threat by counter intelligence and imprisoning bombers but also addressing the issues and discussion with, shock horror...terrorists. Its ironic that the BO's background, policies (and middlename) have put those who would harm the US on the backfoot - take advantage world!

james, london, uk

If we did not 'interfere" with other countries' business and show that we are a power to be reckoned with, those other countries would be here showing us they are a power to be reckoned with instead. We have to maintain the stance of a strong nation to maintain our freedom. Too many foreigners now

Alikospah, Cripple Creek, Colorado USA

Any such 'spectacular' would of course be blamed on Iran.

Hue, London, UK,

I know how President Bush can please our progressive, left wing moral relativist friends. Since this conflict is the result of a lack of respect for other cultures, G.W. Bush should incorporate some aspects of their beautiful culture into our own. Perhaps a Saudi style Vice and Virtue squad....

Craig, Brisbane, Australia

For too long we have interfered in other countries business and try to force our type of democracy down other countries throat that do not believe in our corrupt / immoral ways.Our fear of terrorism should not be from outside but within . Let's not forget Tim Mcvie

Mike, Dallas, tyexas

Dear Mr. Obama; Considering things as they are, I'd hunker down announce your personel commitment to launching the greatest venture into space and do it for all of mankind. Like Kennedy everyone will love you.

john smith, Valencia, USA

We have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Payne Hertz, Chicago, US

When I was young, I had the feeling that we should all just try to get along. As I have aged, had children etc., I learned that there will ALWAYS be violent and crazy people. Not just in Pakistan. There is no way around it. We MUST be prepared to do what it takes to stop it and be willing fight.

Blair, thomasville,

How is it fear mongering when Biden tells us there will be an international crisis?

Steve, Decatur, , USA

The London Tube and Bus bombings seem to have become just a footnote in history .
Call it just more fear mongering to the parents and loved ones of the people killed and maimed.

Prudence Eely Bond McGuire BA, LONDON, ENGLAND UK

That would explain why British visitors to the US now face several hours of interrogation at the airport immigration dept.

Sue Doughty, Twyford, UK

Sadly bama won't be up to the job. He will be only interested in bringing socialism to the United States. That alone may placate the sworn enemies of the US.

Jake, doniphan, usa

Keith, in HK

Get your *facts straight:

3,000 to 4,000 Flu deaths a year in the UK
Worldwide malaria annual death rate is approx 870,000
Worldwide TB annual death is approx 1.5 million

* Numbers from the World Health Organization and CDC

Tibor, Brighton, USA

Gee Shana, President Bush was very calm when 9/11 happened, and you and those like you condemned him for it. Now you think that will be a positive factor now that you man is in. Interesting. Sounds very partisian to me.

brian, indy, usa

Here is the problem. If you say nothing or do not make a big deal about it, and a terrorist attack comes off, you are accused of not taking it seriously and of not warning people. If you repeat every warning, you are accused of scare mongering.

So no matter who the president is, they cannot win

Antonio Calabrese, Brooklyn, USA

In any case, Obama is incapable of handling anything beyond internet donations! "He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know." - Abraham Lincoln

WallyG, Thousand Oaks CA, USA

Arms Race? You forgot the part when the CIA downright lied about how much the Soviet Union had just so it would feed the arms building industries in the US. That build up caused the Soviets to build more themselves. Funny how that does not get much press in the "we-never-do-anything-wrong" US.

John , Edmonton, Canada

If B.O. is really smart (and that is questionable), he will ask key members of the current Republican administration to "keep coming to work" every day for the 1st 3 months of his Presidency. It would certainly be worth every penny of their salaries to have them immediadely available to give advic

Patrick, Altenstadt a.d. Waldnaab, Gemany

Oh, dear. So sad to read so much fear mongering and right wing nut jobs against President Elect Obama, who will, if presented with an attack, be the calmest person in the nation. I agree with the poster from Toronto who said far more lives have been lost in the "war on terror" than in any attack.

Shana, Columbus, USA

Gee, maybe if the US had just fired those responsible for failures on 9/11 and done their jobs then we wouldn't be in this mess...You create more interventions overseas against the factions that your own government created. Meanwhile you fund other groups who are the enemy of your enemy...

David, Aiken, USA

If you want to understand "terror", read Infowars.com and Rense.com. It is usually not what it seems.

Bob, Charleston, USA

the inside job part II. Thanks for the notice

partrick, denver,

Before believing another word the Republocrats and corporate media say about "al qaeda" and "bin laden", spend some time on the Complete 9/11 Timeline
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

Erik Larson, Rancho Cucamonga, USA

Obama says that he is a christian which in the eyes of fanatic muslims he would be considered a traitor to islam since he was born muslim. Islamic law states that if his father was muslim his children are muslim. The penalty for leaving islam are very harsh...including death.
Just food for thought

john franks, titusville, USA

"There has been over 12,000 separate terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11, so this is not "mindless fear mongering"".

Have you got a source for that figure, or did you just pluck it out of thin air?

mike jones, London, UK

Attack from Al-Qaeda? Oh puhleeze.

Kim Righetti, Upland, Calif. USA

The struggle we have 'officially' been engaged in since Sept2001 is the one our nation will either win or die to. This is a conflict for the ages - generations. Our enemies have planned their effforts accordingly. They are fully aware of the cost to them and us. Do we know the cost? Are we stronger?

Tom, Portsmouth, USA

Combine these predictions (note Biden's own prediction plus his promise that we won't like how Obama handles the crisis) with 2/3 of Obama staff so far being Clinton retreads (we saw their failures to handle terrorist attacks in their 8 years) and we might want to start again with home shelters.

Bob, Prospect, USA

If Obama is a terrorist like all your right wing nut jobs keep saying, then we have nothing to worry about, we should be worry when obama turns on us right? You guys are idiots, worry about losing your worthless blue collar jobs in lieu of national security.Obama will set our country free again

Ethan, san francsico, USA

"......a London nightclub attack was narrowly thwarted".
The attack wasn't thwarted, the detonators started a fire in two cars but the planned explosion failed due to the incompetence of the bomb builder. fear mongering - maybe, real threat - probably.

Pablo, Cambridge, England

When a president downsizes the military and intelligence community, then sits down with our enemies in a framework with far less preconditional requirements than the previous administration, all the while loudly vowing to repair our foreign policy, just how do you think our enemies perceive this?

charles, jackson, USA

Its disgusting to see so many Republicans are hoping for an attack to prove the majority of Americans were wrong for voting for Obama

Elizabeth , Portland, usa

Hey Keith, we don't have TB and Malaria in the US. Because we killed it!

Fred, Hampshire, US

Every nation today, except the U.S. in 2 months, has leaders experienced in the art of public statement vs. private policy. Liberal naivete breeds inaction when confronted with an attack. Just watch Obama do nothing but posture when confronted with an actual attack. They loathe the military.

Armen, Los Angeles, USA

"I cannot believe how many barack-bashers there are out there." .............Welcome to the world of politics Barack.............George W. Bush

Emory Levy, Morgan,

We live in a land of fear. I find it amusing that everybody is so nervous about the new President Elect. Maybe if we stop playing the bully on the play ground role, less people will want to do us harm. I love America, I just wish that we could stop playing world police and mind our own business more

Brandon, Tioga , USA

This is a "news" story released in order to prepare the public for another false-flag terror attack. Mostly likely it will be carried out by Israel, just as 9/11, the Lavon Affair, bombing of the King David Hotel, and many others. This will give a justification for an invasion of Pakistan.

ChiTown, Chicago, USA

The arms race chronology at the end of the article is not correct. The Soviet Union's first atomic test was on August 29, 1949, First Lightning, the (U.S. named it Joe #1).

The 1953 test on August 8, 1953 was their 4th atomic test, and the first to use U-235, the first three used Pu-239.

Author Lee, Melbourne, USA

Oh no the US government has no motive whatsoever to fearmonger. They've never done that before! Those color coded alerts were there to help us... uh... well who knows.

Bush should be warning Obama about the terror he himself has wrought upon the world and how difficult it will be to clean it up.

Tony, Tulsa,

This is not possible. We were told that if Dear Leader was elected, that everyone on Earth would love America and everything would be rainbows and unicorns and daisies.

John, Northampton, PA,

Since the domestic enemies of the U.S. Constitution now completely run the nation's government and we are on the verge of becoming the next failed attempt at socialism, I have no doubt we'll be attacked again. Muslim Extremism - like all terrorism - thrives on the weakness of their adversaries.

Mike, Wilton, NH, USA

"To the previous comments, what, exactly, would the point be of the US government attempting to instill fear in their own people?" The point would be to frighten people into giving up innumerable rights to privacy, and to accept torture as acceptable US military policy.

Harley Sanders, Branton WV, US

Americans won't realize that they have been bamboozled and flimflamed until they witness the inept reaction of Obama to his first crisis event.

S. Nafoo, Topeka, USA

Reinald:
Interesting delusion, "innocent lives." Occupants of a geographical region who do not prevent fanatics in their midst from formulating and carrying out mass homicide upon persons living in other geographic areas can no longer be deemed innocent. Action, or inaction, has consequences.

Russ Armstrong, Becker, MN, USA

It is truly regrettable that Obama has appointed Rahm Emmanuel to his team. It is a clear sign that it will be 'business as usual' in the middle east and no real, significant, progress will be made in that arena. The US is it's own worst enemy and has not learned to real lessons of 9/11.

Alejandro Sol, London, UK

Islam has a feeling that President-Elect Obama has sympathies for the Muslim people based on the fact that he was born and raised as a Muslim.
If there was an attack on the US, suspicion would fall on Barack,
It's not going to happen!

Walter, brooklyn, United States Of America

Knowing Obama's "dove " stand on world events will of course give the terrorist of the world motivation to attack again. I love all you big mouths who think terrorism is just a political tool to scare the masses .I'm in NY City every day and it's not a comfortable feeling thinking what could happen

Lee, Secaucus, USA

"In Britain, security officials say that there is genuine concern that alQaeda will attempt a "spectacular" in the transition period, but suggest that it may be aimed more at Mr Bush than Mr Obama". Obama's dad was Muslim, and that makes him an Apostate in the view of most Islamic scholars Look out

Dave, Minneapolis, USA

It was told to the American people that with Obama as President the world will love us again.

scott, Phoenix,

Any new administration is vulnerable to crises until it settles in. Perhaps Mr. Obama is more sensible than "smith", "Reinald", et al, and will heed the warnings. Sorry, Mr. Dale, you're mistaken: al-Qaeda will be outraged with us no matter who is appointed, so your appeasement strategy is useless

Mike Doyle, Louisville, USA

I see nothing but comments from small town Americans who do nothing but repeat Fox news bytes. Obama, Mccain, doesn't matter who you put in office, the threat is the same. The fact you convince yourself that our pres, because he's not republican will do nothing to protect is so ignorant it's sad..

Ron, Chicago, USA

As the cartoon character Pogo, by Walt Kelly, used to parphrase.. We have met the enemy and elected him to office. Keep you powder dry, boys, when the fight comes to your neighborhood, know thine enemy well.

William R.Smith, Marietta, GA, USA

There are two excellent novels, written by an expert, that tell a realistic story of how al-Qaeda attacks the US with simple nuclear devices, THE RINGS OF ALLAH, and then continues the story of the US's recovery and retribution, BEHOLD, AN ASHEN HORSE. Both are available on Amazon. A chilling story

James, Virea, USA

Why not just leave the area? You, like Alexander The Great, have no business in another country. Makes the mind boggle, the biggest spender on arms of all the world put together, can land things that go wizz on to the surface of MARS, and you cant find Bin Larden. Hey, no ones comming for ya.

Mick, Byron Bay, Australia

Do not worry.Our president elect , Bill Ayers, reverend Wright,Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and all of Obama's friends will go talk to Al Qaeda. They will sing songs around a campfire, where they will hug and sway.

jkeyes, springville, uSA

Go back as far in history as you like there has always been war!
Like it or not when ANY civilization becomes big and powerful then there will be other civilizations that want to bring it down. All people must be ever vigilant to protect themselves. This is NOT fear mongering, but self defense.

Scott, Georgia, USA

Sadly it may take another 9/11 to get people to wake up. It seems the new administration will only be "monitoring" and preparing for--not actively seeking out and protecting against- a new attack. I hope I inferred this point incorrectly. Once we stop being pro-active, we are sitting ducks.

Loren, Oxnard, USA

I would have to agree....fearmongering.

jack, warrenton,

Terrorists lack the resources to carry out their plans directly, so they leverage what can do by using fear. Please, cower in your McMansions over a threat much less probable than, say, being mowed down by a cell-phone wielding soccer mom in her SUV. Osama Bin Laden thanks you for your help.

Brian, Denver,

Comment #3. well done Dawn. smoking a cigarette in a swimming pool of gasoline may be the worst analogy ever created!

Rich, new york, usa

The key to this article is the mention of how essentially the previous Administration was asleep to national security threats in their first year. That will not happen again.

Now that this story is linked to drudge here in the states, it's amusing to read the weak whining of the scared right.

Ray Burns, Greensboro, NC, USA

The Republicans are out in force on this thread I see. They forget WSC 'jaw, jaw, jaw is better than war, war, war'. It will be interesting to see what a man with a brain can do in this sutuation. The war on terrorism should be regarded as an international police action, not an excuse for war

David Doig, Grafton, Canada

No clue Obama may get a wake up call, but it's sadly the American people who will suffer in such an event. Obama is finding out that his Moses, "I am here because you need me", complex is one the terrorists will laugh themselves silly on. They are not as gullible as the US voters.

William, Stuart, Florida, USA

I don't think there will be a terror attack inside the US until next summer, it will take Obama that long to tear down the protection that was put in place after 9-11-01.

Richard T. Ketchum, Moberly, USA

Zack - give me a break.
Dawn - and our wars have worked out even better?

Leigh, Akron, USA

Any attack on the U.S. will play right into Obama's hands and you can bet that he will let it happen. It will set the stage for martial law which he will convince most fools is "justified" by the circumstances.

Bob, Seattle,

Modern society - the "world as we know it" - is very fragile. Just look at the consternation caused by the mortgage meltdown. Everything is so intertwined, so inter-co-dependant. Just one dirty bomb would easily dispel the notion that life will continue on indefinately as it is now.

ChrisJames, Halifax - Canada,

Hilarious that people in Oklahoma and Ohio, whose only terrorist threat, if any, is from homegrown nutjobs, are worried about Obama protecting us. New York and Washington D.C., where we've been hit hard already, voted overwhelmingly for Obama. They planned the next attack while Bush played in Iraq

Tim, NYC, USA

I cannot believe how many barack-bashers there are out there. I believe that our American Constitution and our inherant seperation of power creates a constant front for our ideals. The notion that Barack is even able to have such a detrimental effect shows ignorance of the current situation.

Randall Parker, Bradley Beach, Monmouth

Of course another attack is going to happen. I would bet the sleeper cells are already here in the US waiting for their orders. These agents most likely snuck into the country over the mexican border, since we know how easily illegals do it everyday. How will we respond? We need maximum force.

christian, orlando, US

Malaria and TB collectively kills 5 million people a year. Your average year of Flu in the UK kills 30,000, translating to a couple of million a year worldwide.

Al Qaeda? oooh I'm so scared, I better hide under my bed.

keith, HK,

A safe bet, if I were a wagering man. If an attack has not come yet it will come in the future, duh!

Charles Martel, Uncasville, USA

The real terror will be when he takes office.

Zack, College Park MD, usa

mindless fear mongering? two towers, countless souls. a loss of perspective and naivety is stubornly present in the choice of words. A petty choice.

Bullard , lamaR , Usa

When you have a person who says that their solution to people who want to wipe out your country is to simply, "Sit down and talk", that is a recipe for weakness.

It's kind of like smoking a cigarette in a swimming pool of gasoline. It may sound kind of neat, but it really doesn't ever work out.

Dawn Delahari, Rochester, USA

"Fearmongering?!?!" We Americans, tend to be forgetful and just plain Stupid. Of course Al-Quaida is planning something large. Better yet, we now have a President-Elect who will sit by and let it happen. With Bush, at least we knew that we wouldn't sit down "unconditionally" with the enemy...

Josh, Kansas City, MO, USA

It amazes me that after 9/11, anyone can dismiss the very real threat of future attacks as "mindless fearmongering." Just keep telling yourself that, while others with more sense work to protect you. Although with Obama in office, there may not be much protection coming.

Mary, Oklahoma, USA

Not only do we have terrorists to fear, but we have a new Prez. that is so inexperienced and green, with some of the most far left agendas, I don't know which one to fear the most.

Bob, , USA


The appointment of a former Israeli with dual citizenship to a key White House position in the new administration is a grave error that will be a slap in the face to the Middle East peace process and will encourage world terrorism and a continuation of the US estrangement from the global community.

colin dale, London, UK

There has been over 12,000 separate terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11, so this is not "mindless fear mongering".

Baxter, London, UK

I believe all people that have no worry of the danger of our destruction have not the sence to be a critique. I grew up not knowing if a bomb would destroy your town by morning and it was no fun walking through destruction every day. Wake up and smell the roses. Remember 9/11

Peter Cyr, Dallas, u s a

mindless fearmongering, the only thing this enemy respects is power. the one thins that they crave, the only way to get it is through mindless acts of violence. the only thing to Stop them is a understanding this useful dialogue we hear about is like a Child begging a bully for his lunch money the only thing that offsets is a firm stand not firm words.

Bullard , lamaR , Usa

The threat level would be a lot lower with McCain in office rather than this lightweight with his shaky background.
We will rue the day he came on the scene.

Don Ricardo, norfolk, va

Remember your words if it happens to you!
Foolish................

daniel martin, covington, United States

With all due respect to the previous two commentators, I don't think you really are in the loop on what threats are out there. Please research the topic and watch the news over the next couple of years. Details will emerge of legitimate threats that were eliminated.

J, Toledo, USA

Better to fear monger now than cry the day after thousands are killed. Read your history. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. There is NO peace dividend. The enemies of the west continue to march on developing weapons and missiles. That is a fact. I am ashamed of you for forgetting 9/11.

Harry, Columbus,

...spoken like a true Neville Chamberlain.

tiffany, Harpers Ferry, USA

The Terrorists love Obama! They know he's no match for them

James, NY, USA

To the previous comments, what, exactly, would the point be of the US government attempting to instill fear in their own people? Are you propelling conspiracies theories? Your accusations are baseless and completely counter-intuitive.

David, Washington DC, USA

Reinald in Toronto: The 'War on Terror', if you insist on calling it that, has been the least deadly was in the history of mankind. Use any internet source and look at the death tolls in all the world's major wars and disagreements. To Smith in Catonsville: Learn to read without a bias.

Frederick, Chicago, USA

Haven't we had enough fear mongering, a little perspective always helps, far more innocent lives have been lost due to the 'war on terror', than were ever lost due to global terrorism.

Reinald, toronto, canada

Mindless fearmongering, yet again.

smith, Catonsville, USA

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